John S. Herrington

Now he's investigating UFOs, and what he sees are some familiar patterns in the gap between what insiders are saying and what the wider world is prepared to take seriously.

We discussed that exclusive, Trump's approach to disclosure, and the detail John Herrington changed in his account of the Brent Friedman story.

And I asked Ben directly, why should listeners believe any other journalist entering this subject will get us closer to more of the answers we are looking for? This is That UFO Podcast.

My name is Andy.

Um, so I think it's a game of inches, and, uh, I think it's too soon to form any strong conclusions.

Before we head off, I want to touch on another story that's very recent, very relevant that you've done some digging into.

Um, a couple of listeners got in touch to ask about John Herrington.

So Herrington, uh, was on with Jesse Michels from American Alchemy yesterday, uh, recently, sorry.

So Bohemian Grove members.

John S. Herrington.

[clears throat] John S. Harrington, man.

Old guy, still in decent shape, still alive.

Is that all it is? Let's find out.

Brent, have you gone back to John Herrington in the interceding years and tried to extract more from him? Because, I mean, what I can tell our audience is I do know that a formal approach has been made to John Herrington by people from the Congress who are investigating this matter, and, uh, they've been unsuccessful in getting John to speak further on it.

Ha- have you had any further conversations with him since? I appreciate he's still alive.

He's a very elderly man now.

She's really drawn a line in the sand.

Um, but it, you know, honestly, I'm living in this world right now where at any time I would expect possibly him calling me and saying, "What the hell are you doing?"

Which leads us to right now, because now we're gonna hear from John Herrington.

But before I play those clips, I do want to address a couple things Brent Friedman just said, which will come into play later on in the video, such as Brent basically saying that he contacted his mom to say, "Hey, I'm gonna be talking about John Herrington.