John Romita Sr.

This is by no means comprehensive, but if you like talking about seminal Daredevil runs, it's Frank Miller and Klaus Janson in the late in the '70s, early '80s.

It's Ann Nocenti and John Romita Sr. in '86 to '91.

Bendis and Maleev in the early 2000s.

Then Brubaker and Lark after Bendis and Maleev in the mid-2000s, and then Wade and Somni in 2010.

Spider-Man.

John Romita Sr. didn't do the fucking cover of the podcast.

It doesn't matter.

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over time,

haven't they? They've tweaked the size, but they've definitely stayed closer to a more John Romita size.

Maybe you can see what they do on the new one.

No, there is a heads-up display and there is the moving lenses, I'm pretty sure.

You may have seen this on Golden.

This is the PSA 10 John Romita Sr.

So this is more the sketch format.

This is from '98.

was it because it was the black suit that i decided to finally pick up amazing spider-man probably um but like you know my iron man is james rhodes my fantastic four includes she-hulk you know so it's like this weird sort of time in the marvel history of of um and it, and it kind of was cemented by going back to this book because you went through all these chapters.

As you say, you have to front load all these chapters of the Ditko, the Romita era, right? Like all these things, the Jerry Conway era.

And by the time I get to Spider-Man, all that stuff is done, right? Like now we're in this black suit Spider-Man and black cat has powers because of the kingpin.

And, um, i had oh hobgoblin right like we have not we don't have green goblin we have hobgoblin you know so that was my particular year that chapter that chapter six the only reason i referenced chapter five is because of peter parker um those issues that you spotlighted from peter parker spider-man going into the secret wars battle don't dome you know like all that i was i was right there for so Really interesting to read that chapter to go, yep, there it is.

and the comics.

Again, mostly being a DC guy, I know only a little bit about Marvel.

While I definitely appreciate what Ditko did with Spider-Man, I'm drawn, no pun intended, more to the Romita era.

Just how beautiful that looked.

That's the beauty of Byrne is like everything is, when he draws a character, it's the definitive version of that character.

He's almost like an evolution of like John Romita, say, where I don't know that he ever worked specifically for Marvel's licensing department, but he could have.

And I just think these are beautiful pages.

Also, Claremont, he does it in the intro that you read, not in these narrations here.

Cause I adore Lee and Ditko's work.

I adore John Romita senior.

I love that stuff, but it is of its time.

And so reading ultimate Spider-Man is almost like rediscovering those stories, but just with enough pathos and like maturity that as an adult, you can really sit with it for a while, which I really love it, but it's not like they're reinventing it.