John Rocha

[laughs] Oh, my God, I feel like I'm going back here.

Um, and I took a year off, worked with John Rocha, worked in London for a year during London Fashion Week, did that whole thing.

And then when I finished my degree, which was, you know, five years-

Yeah

I did a diploma in fashion design.

I interned with John Rocha and actually that got me into interiors because I realised...

After I did a season with him, I did a London Fashion Week and I realized I could never be a fashion designer.

It was too transient.