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John Poindexter

John Poindexter

Former National Security Advisor of the United StatesWikipedia

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Nov 4, 2026

William CooperHOST
4:32
We've given that to you.
William CooperHOST
4:35
In my book, Behold a Pale Horse, you can see some of the history of President George Herbert Walker Bush in connection with the Central Intelligence Agency, the drugs in the Golden Triangle, the connection between the Iran-Contra affair, drugs, Oliver North, Admiral Poindexter, and a whole bunch of other things, and... that tremendous financial conglomerate known as Bank of Credit and Commerce International, otherwise known to researchers as BCCI.
William CooperHOST
5:15
The Central Intelligence Agency, under George Herbert Walker Bush, and later under Vice President George Herbert Walker Bush, and even later under President Bush, George Herbert Walker Bush, assisted the Afghani freedom fighters in Afghanistan against the invasion and occupation of their country by the Soviet Union.
William CooperHOST
5:43
In order to create the elements that was needed to bind the various Islamic sex groups and different tribal affiliations, under one concerted cause to fight the Soviet Union, the Central Intelligence Agency corrupted the religion of Islam and taught this corrupted version to special leaders that they recruited in order to teach it to others in cooperation with the Pakistani SIS, that's their secret intelligence service, A lot of these schools and a lot of this instruction was conducted within the borders of Pakistan and in Afghanistan by operatives of the Central Intelligence Agency from America's SEAL teams and special forces sent to Afghanistan by the Special Operations Division of the Department of Defense, also known as the Special Operations Group, or SOG.
William CooperHOST
37:57
You see, if it was lawful, if it was constitutional, if it was legal, they would not have to deny it.
William CooperHOST
38:03
Deniable is exactly what Ollie North and Admiral Poindexter said over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again in the Iran-Contra hearings.
speaker_6SOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
38:20
debate within the Pentagon over this because the view there and it was expressed by Colin Powell the former Joint Chief of Staff is that if the conflict was not worth enough to go in openly then it may not be worth enough to go in covertly and
William CooperHOST
38:37
I say if it's not worth going in under the law then it cannot be done at all Because anything else is unconstitutional, unlawful, illegal.
William CooperHOST
37:52
You see, if it was lawful, if it was constitutional, if it was legal, they would not have to deny it.
William CooperHOST
37:58
Deniable is exactly what Ollie North and Admiral Poindexter said.
William CooperHOST
38:04
said over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again in the Iran-Contra hearings.
speaker_7SOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
38:16
The debate was in the Pentagon over this because the view there, and it was expressed by Colin Powell, this former Joint Chief of Staff, is that if the conflict was not worth enough to go in openly, then it may not be worth enough to go in covertly.
Douglas RushkoffHOST
10:32
It was as if the danger of free and open networks, of walking onto a plane without a body scan or participating on the net without total surveillance apparati in place, had been proven.
Douglas RushkoffHOST
10:49
Admiral Poindexter, he was part of the Bush administration, proposed a total information awareness program.
Douglas RushkoffHOST
10:58
That's what they called it.
Douglas RushkoffHOST
10:59
Mass surveillance and predictive policing on an unprecedented scale.
Douglas RushkoffHOST
11:04
It was shut down in a year by a horrified Congress, but then it was essentially restarted in the private sector by Palantir.
Douglas RushkoffHOST
11:12
Ed Snowden, remember him? His leaked documents revealed how Palantir software eventually fed the government systems where everything Poindexter's program was supposed to do.
Douglas RushkoffHOST
11:24
And in parallel, the net became safer for banking, ultra-fast trading, derivatives activity, unimaginable in the era of manual buy-order tickets and live phone calls between traders.
Douglas RushkoffHOST
11:38
The whole yuppie scum normative business culture we were trying to escape by going online had successfully taken over the whole thing.
Sharon WeinbergerGUEST
27:14
But he's also interesting because he is also a bit of a sort of a shape-shifting chameleon.
Sharon WeinbergerGUEST
27:19
I would also speak to people, like I interviewed Admiral Poindexter, the famous Iran-Contra figure, Ronald Reagan National Security Advisor, who had met with them in the early days.
Sharon WeinbergerGUEST
27:29
who said like, wow, he showed up with like a suit and a conventional haircut.
Sharon WeinbergerGUEST
27:33
So he also knows how to dial it in.
speaker_1ADVERTISER
31:27
I
Brian CraigHOST
31:28
can't remember, was it the Admiral Poindexter case? I can't remember, but he had to testify.
Brian CraigHOST
31:33
And Ronald Reagan said, during his eight years as president.
Brian CraigHOST
31:39
And we know Ronald Reagan doesn't have anywhere near the energy of President Trump, because who does, right? I mean, professional athletes don't have this man's energy.
CryptowiresHOST
36:22
He acknowledged approving the arms sales, but maintained he was unaware that profits went to the Contras.
CryptowiresHOST
36:27
National Security Advisor John Poindexter...
CryptowiresHOST
36:30
Guy's name is really Poindexter, you know? His name is literally that.
CryptowiresHOST
36:38
Testified, he deliberately withheld the diversion decision from the president to give him deniability.
CryptowiresHOST
36:55
So some of the convictions that didn't stick.
CryptowiresHOST
36:58
Two central figures were convicted and then walked free on appeal.
CryptowiresHOST
37:01
Oliver North and John Poindexter were both found guilty, but their convictions were overturned because their immunized congressional testimony had tainted the prosecutions.
CryptowiresHOST
37:13
The Constitutional Protection Congress granted to compel their testimony ultimately ended the criminal cases against them.
MattHOST
52:21
These guys fucked up.
MattHOST
52:23
Dick Cheney, Donald Rundfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, David Fife, Richard Pearl, John Poindexter, all these guys, right? They got us into all these legal wars, and they gave us the Patriot Act, which not only did not go away, but is up and running and is one of the most successful businesses I think we've ever had in the U.S.
MattHOST
52:45
And it's given to us with two selling points.
MattHOST
52:49
It's going to make your life better.

9 MINS LATER

MattHOST
62:00
TIA.
MattHOST
62:02
So this was attempted to be rolled into the programs begun in the 90s, but once we had our new Pearl Harbor program, being 9-11, which that's what it was called in the Project for a New American Century by the same neocons that I just listed.
MattHOST
62:18
Then we get John Poindexter, who became kind of the point man on total information awareness.
MattHOST
62:24
We had 9-11, and all Americans were just scared shitless and like, what do you have to do to make sure that never happens again? These guys went like, now's the time.
Sharon WeinbergerGUEST
23:45
And there's even, I forget, it's a Mark Bowden book which says that, you know, Palantir perfected what total information awareness started.
Sharon WeinbergerGUEST
23:53
So I went back to Admiral Poindexter.
speaker_0HOST
23:55
He'd
Sharon WeinbergerGUEST
23:56
been Ronald Reagan's national security advisor.
Sharon WeinbergerGUEST
23:58
John Poindexter.
Sharon WeinbergerGUEST
23:59
yeah you know he had been convicted related to the iran-contra scandal later that was overturned but admiral poindexter had started and run the total information awareness program at darpa in 2003.
Sharon WeinbergerGUEST
24:13
And so I went to him and asked him, is it true that Palantir grew out of Total Information Awareness? He's like, it's absolutely not true.
Sharon WeinbergerGUEST
24:33
He had gone back to the private sector, but he still worked with one of the contractors.
Max BootGUEST
25:31
And then this moved from the realm of an unsuccessful policy to a great scandal.
Max BootGUEST
25:36
When John Poindexter, who succeeded Bud McFarland as National Security Advisor, and his aide, Oliver North, decided to take the profits from the sale of weapons to Iran and to funnel the profits to the Contras in Nicaragua, these anti-communist rebels, even though Congress had passed the Boland Amendment forbidding aid to the Contras.
Max BootGUEST
25:57
And so this was... a scandal that blew up in Reagan's face in 1986.
Max BootGUEST
26:03
He could have actually been impeached because of it.

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