John Philip Newell

And I just kind of carried on reading more books.

I found Philip Newell.

I found David Adam, you know, and just kind of carried on with those kind of books and learning.

And as far as I knew, the circles I was moving in, I was the only person in the world who was trying to live this out.

And as you know, that's not original to me at all.

And others, I mean, I really lean on folks like John Philip Newell and others who speak so beautifully to this.

But it's, you know, simply put, it's that the story begins at Genesis chapter one and not Genesis chapter three.

But even the story of Genesis chapter three has been turned into a tragedy when it's something...