Right.

And yet that was the day my brother was used for good.

And he picks up this rug, he beat down the flames, carries me outside, jumps on top of me, r-r-you know, burns himself in the process, but goes back into the house that's on fire and calls nine one one.

And while he's doing his thing, these little girls are in the front yard.

One of them is holding me in the front yard.

Her name's Amy.

She's eleven.

And I think those two stories just captured my heart in watching it, and, uh, would love for them to hear those as well.

Who shows up for you in that?

I mean, I was with my mom yesterday and she's one of them.

So you asked earlier about the story and succinctly tell it because it shows who the heroes are.

In fact, a moment ago, you and I took a picture in front of the poster Soul on Fire and it's right behind you.

If you look at it, John O'Leary is not the cover star.

If you kind of shut your eyes and imagine what that poster looks like, they take John, they turn him into a shadow.

And then what that means is your eyes naturally go to the light.

And what's the difference between accepting reality to then deal with change and adapt versus giving up?

But are you-- how pleased are you from a fan point of view that the club are choosing to go down this route again and not just kind of, I suppose, sticking with a kind of tried and tested Scottish manager?

Uh, yeah, de- delighted.

Uh, there, there was...

I think there was kind of a turning point in the club, uh, a little while back where we, we took on a more modern approach.

Uh, people like Derek and the, uh, executives at the club tried to mo- modernize the way that we look at coaching and player recruitment Uh, and last season it, it, it shone through as probably I think a lot of Motherwell fans would say top, top two or three most enjoyable seasons that they've ever had watching Motherwell.

Uh, but clearly trying to carry that on with, uh, this appointment as well.

He's a young manager.

How, how do, how do you feel about your expectations for the new season? Have you kind of, have you kind of leveled them?

[laughs]

...

he got mad at me for far less than burning down his house.

I'm pretty sure I know what's gonna happen here.

And then I hear his voice down the hall, and again, these are my recollection.

I remember it very specifically.

I hear his voice and he's saying, uh, you know, "Where is my boy John?" He's a business owner, Robert, and he's a- a veteran, so he's Type A, he's driven.

Go have fun, yeah.

Mm

... for 20 years.

My life changed in the back row of a church service.

My arms were crossed.

I was wiped out from the night before.

We won't go into the details of that, but I'd been out too late.

My life was just sideways, man, but I made it in, and the pastor was talking about the gift of talents, and he went through the five and the two and the one, and then he came to me, like when the light goes on you, and he said, "And for those who feels if you have no hope and no talent," and that might be the person you're speaking to there.

[laughs]

How in the world did you go about being an executive producer in a movie? I mean, it's

all God's hand.

And that sounds like John, own your part of it.

And I think I am.

I just did.

It is just saying yes to his will, not yours.

I was speaking in Las Vegas.

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