And then with that second part of that question, do you actually think that they would like to come after more than just, say, your mountain lions, bobcat lynx, some of the more exotic animals?

Absolutely.

And before I got involved with Colorado Wolf Tracker three years ago, I wasn't a conspiracy theorist.

I'm fairly moderate politically and really like to believe that things were done fair and on the up and up.

And what I found just in the past three years, delving into some of these organizations, talking to some of the people who were involved in it, there are strategies out there to eliminate hunting and fishing.

This may sound ridiculous to people.

But we look at Europe, for example.

But what's kind of the breaking news here? What's the most recent things that we should know? And with that, What kind of solution do you propose if you have one? Is the proper course from here, in your view, to make the best out of a tricky situation?