John Major

Um, and Preston Manning, uh, who recently held the Assembly West, uh, process a few weeks ago with former BC Premier Gordon Campbell, and Preston was absolutely stunned that he was unable to get Mr. Lukaszuk or anybody else from the Canada side to participate in that process.

And the other people participating in the process were Jack Mintz, former Supreme Court of Canada Justice John Major.

Uh-huh.

I was very uncomfortable 'cause he, he's 94, but super sharp.