John Lennox

He was a, a full, full complete atheist at that time.

Okay? But he had, um, this gentleman on, which was Wesley Huff and John Lennox, and they have been working on him to the point that when I saw the podcast yesterday when Andrew Huberman was talking about his prayer life and things that he was doing and talking about God, the host, who was an atheist a year ago when I met him, has now come to the point where he is actually praying himself.

Okay? So what I'm saying here [laughs] is that health is the major, major thing.

It's the entering wedge.

It's gonna be big.

So I want you to block out January 11 to January 16.

Now, one of the interesting things where I believe Steven Bartlett, who's the host of The Diary of a CEO, when he talked to John Lennox, when he talked to Wesley, um, Huff, he was...

The part that he gets held up at is the part where he asks them, "What happens if somebody has never heard the name of Jesus? They have never understood Christianity.

They marvel at Jesus' work.

I was directed this week to an episode of the Diary of a CEO podcast and the host, Stephen Bartlett, interviewing Christian author and speaker John Lennox.

Towards the end of the interview, Bartlett commented, one of the most compelling arguments for God that you've presented is actually you.

And you have a certain peace and contentment that I rarely see in people that I interview, but I often see and I've almost always seen in the Christians that I've interviewed.

If it was made up, I suppose we could put in whatever we wanted there for those scientifically minded, right? I would say it like that because scientific revolution was...

was brought about by christian scientists galileo and einstein all these people but let's look at this briefly okay the big bang requires you to be in a religion atheism is a religion it's the elites religion it's not even the religion they believe in it's the one they pushed on you because they have these temples and child sacrifices they have they are a they are against god they're antichrist there's christians and they push these antichrists push the idea of atheism they push that so that you pull away the idea of evolution has been there's no scientific consensus on evolution you look at some doctors steven meyer um dr james torr um so many doctors dr william lane craig like you look at these scientists john lennox in uh oxford you look at these scientists and they

say to you that just even look at james torr look at one today if you're going to do something if you want to know the truth and it's not an emotional thing to you just go go look up dr james tor and look how impossible it would have been first of all for the universe to explode out of nothingness to everything we have now even for things to evolve on a basic level okay you defy the first and second or second third law of thermodynamics and that's that things break down over time and basically the third is that there's no new information at it So, also energy cannot be created or destroyed.

There are laws of thermodynamics.

We've got a lot to get to, some very important thoughts, as my week takes a significant turn in a different direction.

For the last two days, we have just had the most... invigorating challenging intellectually spurring us on kind of broadcasts where we're talking about the poetry and the beauty of language with people like Malcolm guide and how to do worship better for our churches with Jordan Coughlin and and understanding what some of the big issues are about with AI and other things with people like John Lennox and Wes Huff and also Oz Guinness and And here we remove ourselves from the Sing 2026 arena and back into the muck and grind of every day.

And it just hit me this morning.

I was laying in my hotel bed about 3.30 Nashville time.

And while we are winding our way back to our New York studio, still on the road for a little bit longer, coming to you from Nashville today, I'm very glad to be so.

We've got a lot to get to, some very important thoughts, as my week takes a significant turn in a different direction.

For the last two days, we have just had the most... invigorating, challenging, intellectually spurring us on kind of broadcasts where we're talking about the poetry and the beauty of language with people like Malcolm Gite and how to do worship better for our churches with Jordan Coughlin and understanding what some of the big issues are about with AI and other things with people like John Lennox and Wes Huff and also Oz Guinness.

And here we remove ourselves from the Sing 2026 arena and back into the muck and grind of every day.

Now, there's a question as to whether and this has been in biblical circles for a long time, is the universe empowered moment by moment or sustained moment by moment to exist at all? Or is it set up like a clock and it sort of winds itself down and with interjections of new information from time to time.

Every time we got a new genus of animals, John Lennox points at this.

He's got a brilliant book called Cosmic Chemistry he released in the middle of COVID.

Anyone who wants more information on this should read John Lennox.

called Cosmic Chemistry, and he talks about the logos too and the word, and he talks about a word-based universe.

But I suspect that the universe needs to be empowered moment by moment from the quantum domain, and I think of that as God's domain.

Yeah, I was g- I was going to ask actually what the effects have been, if there's been a sort of an overly rationalistic approach to, to faith.

And of course, we here at, you know, Premier Unbelievable World, we have the great William Lane Craig and other people on the show, and John Lennox.

We love reason.

Um, but if there's too much of an emphasis on it, what else can happen? And you're, you're speaking to that already.