absolutely but jk um can you just give us a brief overview of the event itself that's who attended well not well yeah so who attended who were the guests speakers were um and a little bit of insight maybe into how you and graham because you did all the work you two how did you arrive at the right speakers and all the rest because quite frankly it was brilliant um and also maybe to mention the sponsors uh one or two of the sponsors who helped us get some of the speakers as well

Yeah, no problem.

I guess going back to the very beginning, it started as a discussion about exercise referral and that then became a full discussion about movement for health, really.

And that's where it went.

Initial conversations that it was going to be a one day event.

Very quickly, we realised that in terms of the really rich content that we wanted to bring into that, it needed to be two days.

Arguably, we could have made it three with the amount we tried to cram in.

So... uh hopefully that's the case um jk um what about yourself in terms of again you've got the links with simsburg through the l sub and things like that what what do you think nationally might need to to happen what would you like to see happen

Yeah.

Well, it's kind of like I remember you want you want to ask me, you're like, what do you tell people like when they're when they say like this is the business is too hard or whatever.

And the biggest thing you can tell anybody is is look, if you don't love doing this and if you don't need to be doing this, like it doesn't.

make you happier than anything else you could possibly be doing, go do the other thing.

Don't be in this business unless it's the only thing that makes you happy to do because it is.

It's crazy hard and there's no guarantees on anything.

But I started – I was a big comedy fan.

But yeah, talk a little about what got you into the Southern Grasp, what got you into that style of indie wrestling, and ultimately what got you into wrestling.