John Heartfield

And he's a, he's a former mergers and acquisitions banker, so he's a relevant player in this.

But w- what she told me was that this, this was a reference to a picture by an, an artist, a, a Second World War artist called John Heartfield, who had done the same thing, but he'd had this German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, holding up one of these wood- wooden toys, and it was Hitler.

And so it was, it was a kind of commentary about how, how big corporate power was very influential, and people knew it back then, was very intru- influential in the rise and the rule of, of, of the Nazis.

So this meme is kind-- Well, it's sort of an old style meme.