John Hay

So that gave the university, it gave me a lot of confidence that we could embark on something new.

Um, about this time, John Hay was starting to develop ins- research institutes within the university, and he'd put in place the first one, which was molecular bioscience.

And essentially a call went out to identify, um, topic for a second institute.

There were a number considered.

The Minister for Innovation and Regional Development, a guy called John Brumby, was a major supporter of that.

In Australia, you saw similar things with Peter Beattie in Queensland and the Smart State Initiative, and that he was an orchestrator along with John Hay, who was the Vice-Chancellor.

But there was also the philanthropy money that came into it as well through Atlantic Philanthropies, and again, an orchestrator through Chuck Feeney.

Now, the condition was, yes, the funds will flow, provided there's collaboration.