John Grinder

Now, I promised you both words.

In the nineteen seventies, two men, Richard Bandler and John Grinder, took three people who were getting results that nobody else was getting, Milton Erickson, Fritz Perls in Gestalt therapy, and Virginia Satir in family therapy.

And they tried to reverse engineer what those three were actually doing with language and intention moment to moment and turn it into something that could be taught to someone who was not a genius.

That is where the field of NLP comes from.

There's a good description.

And that takes a bit of time, right? I'm so used to this because I stepped into it and out of my comfort zone so incredibly far 15 years ago when I turned up to my first coach training session with a guy called John Grinder.

Genuinely, there were so many moments in that initial training where I'd gone from this broker guy who was really set in that mindset of that sort of city lifestyle, drinking too much, doing all the things that I mentioned a million times, and then instantly found myself in this world of learning about our minds and coaching and reflective experiences.

And people were willing to share about how they felt and what they were thinking.

She does courses.

She's also a Reiki teacher.

She does hypnosis.

She does a lot.

And, you know, we I think we've all had experiences of it.

I remember my very first experiences of having Claire audience, and I didn't know what it was.

I was living at the home of a full-time psychic thinking I was going to be a chiropractor and taking all these heavy you know physics and chemistry courses and yet she was there and she was a teacher and working with the Denver police at the time that was when I was in Colorado and I can remember sitting up in the middle of the night hearing my name called and I would be dead asleep, sit up, look at the door, expecting to see her because the spirit world was using her voice.

Now, I don't know if they were using her voice because she was a psychic or because she was the person closest to me, because this happened to me pretty much throughout the next year.

So where does that fit into the stuff that you do, like in terms of hypnosis and NLP? Is that an NLP technique?

So NLP was written by John Grinder and Richard Bandler back in the 1980s.

And what most people don't know, even NLPers, as we'll call them, right? They based their works on a guy called Milton Erickson, who I mentioned earlier.

So they were mathematicians for the most part.

I say, OK, thank you.

Comes back with a beaten up, spine busted, words in every margin, a book called Frogs into Princes, the seminal work of Richard Bandler and John Grinder introducing the world to a new concept called neurolinguistic programming.

Oh, yes.

He hands me that book and he says, this is what you should do with the rest of your life.

You can tell them very directive or you can be indirective and you're still teaching them how to guide their attention, right? Yeah.

In fact, we said good teachers start with what a student already knows.

Yeah.

And that's why you're beginning with where they are right now.