It's good.

So when I saw that, because your podcast is called Emile Thorns, and I always thought that was kind of a goth title.

And now I understand that you, like, record it in a closed room where you could overheat and die.

I'm like, you are, like, you are doing much more avant-garde on the Bleeding Edge podcast than we are.

so we just sit at our computers and

But it was important, so we all got together, and co-host Amy did a deep dive, so I was super well prepared to walk us through our discussion.

I think that was my favorite thing that you did.

My favorite thing that I did, to answer Cacela's actual question, was we talked a lot about swimming headphones, and I think we really delivered a lot of good value there.

It was great.

I listened to every episode.

I think they might have done more like ten.

So I think they got...

They did sort of do a quite good run.

But it is hard and it... and it does the thing we do is we we build in letters of comment so letters of comment are a thing from the old fanzines where you would send your fanzine out and people would send you letters back and then you would have a letter column in the next issue and that's something that's done in a lot of the apple podcasts i mentioned that we listen to it's called something different And it's the same concept.

And I was like, well, there aren't any SF podcasts that I know of that have this weekly dialogue with the community they're talking to.

we didn't we didn't get anyone okay i would like to say i think i think one of the i think one of the things