John Chowning

know, close to double that.

But anyway, now we're, I've been in talks with NAMM for a year and a half, and I have a couple of different synthesizer clubs, you know, that have really, really good you know, accomplished members, Rousseau and John Chowning and Tom Oberheim and those people in the synthesizer clubs.

And, you know, we want to do something, particularly I want to do something while we have these people alive where we can actually get to hear them and talk to them.

Most definitely.

Yeah, because this is very central.

Maybe I can say that I did, I was thinking we had already covered an episode for John Chowning because it's so deeply imprinted in my brain all the time.

As a pioneer, he is.

And actually, last year he did, give a seminar on this in Goldsmith University, which I missed.

Yeah, that's very important.

When it was first officially invented, that was in 1982.

And the first process was John Chowning writing a paper for it.

But then in Stanford University, in 1982, karma which is center for computer research in music and acoustic which is still operating today and john shoning is the uh leader chair of the center when you say

Not Heinz Boland, but like, Max Matthews and John Pierce, Dr. Boulanger, they all were trying.

John Chowning was involved.

They would get groups of people to listen, but they wouldn't have enough listenable stuff.

So everyone's like, I don't know.