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Oct 13, 2026
Episode 58 - Inside U.S. Cyber Defense with Former National Cyber Director Chris Inglis & Ron Green
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Ron GreenGUEST
feel an attack, they need to be able to take that information to the government and share it in order for the government to know.

Chris InglisGUEST
So don't disagree with any of that, but I tend to think that it's more a cultural phenomenon.

Chris InglisGUEST
Because in a crisis, when everybody feels that they're under common assault or maybe they have some stunning common inspiration, they figure out how to collaborate on cardboard with crayons and tin cans and string.

Chris InglisGUEST
They figure out how to actually get it done and they do it at the lowest possible level, meaning that the actual line workers kind of pick up the phone or they have meetings and they compare and contrast the shards, the shreds, the hunches they have to come up with kind of mutually valuable conclusions, things that nobody could do alone.

Chris InglisGUEST
I really enjoyed, when I got to know NSA, understanding the nature of what's called the Five Eyes relationship.

Chris InglisGUEST
That's the relationship that was born of World War II between the Brits, the Americans, the Canadians, the Australians, and New Zealanders.

Chris InglisGUEST
And what was most interesting to me about that is in the fall of 1940, when the U.S. was a declared neutral country, Britain was fighting for their very lives against Nazi Germany.
