John Avlon

And I don't know who that person is, but I think we're, we're gonna be surprised by someone.

John Avlon.

But-

Oh, go, go, go, go, go John.

That's what Sean Maloney, who is a former representative, said.

There's an important difference, which is, this is from John Avlon, my former colleague at CNN, said, "There's a difference in what she's going to have to answer presumably tough questions on the fly, and she is reading her remarks right now quite extensively, and they're all, uh, sycophantic." You know, kind of just, you know, propaganda and fluffing.

Uh, yeah.

Yeah.

Uh, let's see.

I'm gonna see if I can get John Avlon, uh, to pop on to talk about, uh, this and, uh, my source as well, besides John Avlon.

Uh, let's see.

This is quote from the White House.

So let's bring in Basil Smikle, Democratic strategist and former executive director of the New York State Democratic Party.

John Avlon is here, journalist and host of the Bulwark Podcast, How to Fix It with John Avlon.

His new book, Theodore Roosevelt's Guide to Life: The True Story of the Man in the Arena.

It comes out in March.

As a staffer, as an elected official, you cannot be better than your principal.

She is not going to be better than Donald Trump.

Um, and, and, and so God bless John Avlon for injecting a little bit of hope into our otherwise dismal conversations, but I've maybe seen too much.

She's [laughs] not gonna bring truth.

He's in the, one of the reddest districts in New York, Suffolk County District One, which starts, you know, in Suffolk and goes all the way out to Montauk Point.

And so, uh, John Avlon got crushed in this race.

You know John.

I know John.

I used to work with Mayor Giuliani with John Avlon.

He's a good guy.

Got crushed.