Joey Sturgis

I find that that is one thing that I'm struggling to get the same character from in the box.

But one bit of magic for vocals, which is kind of the secret sauce, is by Joey Sturgis.

And it is a game, it's called Game Reduction Deluxe.

And you've got to use this so carefully, you can probably get away with using 10% of it.

Like, that's the purpose, and it's like, I mean, that's happened so much.

I mean, fucking 2010s with like, like Joey, right? Like, every record is, is the rise core, fucking Sumerian core, Joey Sturgis, whatever sound.

Um, and I-

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