Joel Stransky

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I was lucky enough to call that game with, with Joel Stransky.

But no, 2000, um, the climax with Jonah Lomu scoring in the corner.

Uh, 110,000 people, a world record crowd.

But note, I come from a Polish immigrant family, so starting with honesty from the very beginning, we did not know that much about rugby.

Uh, but we watched anyway, of course, and it was less about the game, I would say, or less about the technical aspects or a moment like the Joel Stransky kick.

Like, we kind of just got enamored by the energy and the moments leading up to and during and after, like the, the buses and the unity and the community and the leadership, and I was just at that age, blown away.

And I think it kicked off for me a lifelong, um, passion for the power of sport.

Immortalising, yeah.

You get immortalised if you win a World Cup or you kick a... 55 metre penalty on the angle to win the World Cup or a drop goal like Johnny Wilkinson did or if you're the guy that or Joel Stransky in South Africa or you get immortalised if you were the guy that scored the try when you won the Bledisloe Cup for the first time in 40 years or something like that or the team that won or did a Grand Slam or those sorts of things but to immortalise a hemisphere I'm not quite sure how that works particularly when you consider that Japan which is in the Northern Hemisphere, is actually considered part of the Southern Hemisphere.

So do they have a victory parade and a presentation in the streets of Tokyo for Japan as being part of the triumphant Southern Hemisphere? I'm not sure.

I just think this is

Tell us a little bit about your favorite Springbok rugby memory.

I do notice that you don't mention Joel Stransky ever since that photo popped up on the golf day.

But I remember the rules in any case.

Mine's a little bit difficult because obviously there's so many memories.

Yeah, okay.

And the Springbok team, Joel Stransky tells the story, and even Francois and all the guys tell the story.

They had decided at that point, the scores were level, and they had decided at that point on a particular play.

And they'd set up the play, everybody had agreed on the play, and the idea was they were going to play it down the line.

So submission is not, I always remember the World Cup rugby, 1995.

Who kicked the winning drop goal? Of course, Joel Stransky.

Who won the game? François Pinault? I think Nelson Mandela won it.

When he came out in number six, it doesn't matter who scores the winning goal.

And that takes time.

You can't, if you're a superstar player, even the superstar players we signed would come over, we signed, Joel Stransky, who won a World Cup for South Africa, dropped a goal in the last minute to beat New Zealand.

He came over and played for us.

So for Leicester, it must have been very weird for a superstar from South Africa to come over, but he got stuck in.