Joel Houston

Yeah

... label started by Joel Houston of Hillsong.

Yeah.

Now, to Joel Houston's credit, also somebody who I think has great taste in music and, and is not defined by Christian radio.

And so I, I just think I have a more optimistic view, and I think younger Christian artists are probably because of...

It's like the good thing that the algorithm has done.

So I had, uh, my brother, and I had, like, f- four or five other friends.

Joel and Elissa came and wrote.

Okay.

They were the only local Dallas people besides the boys.

We've, like, built a lot of trust and friendship in our writing world, too.

For sure.

So really, we all ca- and then Joel Houston came the la-

Oh, heck yeah