Oh, no

... defame Israelis, claiming that they're committing a genocide, nothing could be further from the truth.

If you look at how Israel has conducted itself in the years since it became independent in 1948, every possible action that can be taken to minimize the loss of innocent lives, Israel takes.

Prior to every attack on military installations and, and terrorist installations, Israel drops leaflets warning families to leave the premises in order to minimize the risk of a loss of life.

And sadly, these terrorist entities, Hamas entities, they set up their military personnel, their terrorists, they set them up in mosques, in hospitals, in neighborhoods, because the goal of Hamas, in addition to killing innocent Jewish people, the goal of Hamas is also to maximize the loss of civilian lives surrounding them, because they know that this will generate public support for Hamas itself.

And the mayor of New York City, he is an intelligent man.

He knows better.

So you gotta, you got a lotta stuff working right now against us that I don't think the American people have woke up to yet.

something he he wants to do and he maybe he can't even quite verbalize why in a way that makes sense

uh well when i listen to the president's uh excuses or rationale that he's given not just the last two years but that he gave leading through his first presidential campaign and then even as you mentioned going back into the 1980s 40 years ago now when now president trump was uh was claiming that we're being treated unfairly um he repeats some common themes um It's hard to know what's going through his mind.

I know he must be somewhat intelligent, even though he's not known to widely read.

But he continues to spout.

I don't want to say they're lies because lies requires intentionally delivering untruths.

But without a doubt, he is delivering untruths.

Let's talk about one of the primary reasons he gives.

Joel, can you explain just from an economic perspective why this is a really bad idea?

When we talk about being $40 trillion in debt, how do you even get a handle, uh, logically on that situation?

You're right.

These numbers are so astronomical, it's difficult, but $40 trillion divided by the entire population is over $100,000 of debt per person, close to half a million dollars per family of four in debt, and the numbers are growing.

If you look at the, the deficits, uh, this year and next year, we're...

There's, there's no excuse, uh, to be running $1.5 to $2 trillion a year annual deficits.

And beyond those big numbers, there's a real impact with the interest costs as well.

We're spending close to $1.2 trillion per year on interest.

Mm-hmm.

What's so terrible, uh, terrible about that if they s- hit certain benchmarks to give up their nuclear ambitions?

Well, a, a, a few things with this.

Number one, there, there's been a lot of, I would say, uh, to use the word fake news about this 300 billion.

Um, um, and many folks are claiming that opponents of the 300 billion are opposing it because it's gonna be American taxpayer dollars.

I haven't found a single reputable, um, source that's opposed to this deal that has claimed that this $300 billion is coming from American taxpayers or even American businesses.

That is not the point.

The point isn't where the $300 billion comes from.

How do you respond?

Do you want to tell us a little bit about what you're doing and the kind of stage you're at now? And I'd love to kind of dig into kind of then go back and how you got there.

Connect the dots.

Yeah, so I run Browserless.

It's a company founded about eight years ago, a little over eight years ago.

And it kind of fit some of those patterns I was mentioning with music earlier where, you know, there's things that I love to do, automate, you know, in a way, but there's just times where like a web browser had to come into that equation to automate it successfully or to do something successfully.

And you kind of get the sentiment among engineers that it's like, well, only do this if you absolutely have to.

Like it's kind of a perilous problem, you know, to solve something with browser automation.

So, I mean, what's that been like? Has it just been like a massive wave coming at you or?

Does this rise, you think, to the level of a, of a unique moment in time that the government needs to step in and help out?

No, th- this is not a unique moment in time.

In fact, the only way this is unique is that we have a Republican presidential administration threatening to nationalize an airline.

And look, the Biden administration was wrong to kill the merger between JetBlue and Spirit.

That killed nea- nearly $30 billion worth of shareholder value.

But the solution of this is not now to nationalize or bail out Spirit.

The disappearance of Spirit Air if it were to fail, uh, this is not going to impact the broader economy, of course.

Okay