Joe Madison

And I just recently, this conversation that you're about to listen to with Jeremy, you know, talking about basic things like how he listens and watches television, how you've heard in past interviews how he listens to the radio.

He calls one of his adopted moms up, and she holds the phone to the radio so he can listen to Joe Madison, Rest in Power, The Clay Cane Show, Karen Hunter, The Karen Hunter Show on SiriusXM.

That's how he listens.

There is a portal where he can listen to some podcasts that they pipe into the prison system.

Um, and so, you know, I'll be ...

Uh, what I try to do is educate the work that we're doing over in Join the Journey.

I try to educate society on, like most people thinking like, "Hey man, y'all shouldn't be able to listen to The Karen Hunter Show." But if I wasn't able to listen to Joe Madison and Karen Hunter, it'd probably be a different version of Jeremy Busby right now that you're talking to.

And that's because somebody held the phone up to the radio, not because you had access to it.

It's time to continue to do it.

What are you going to do about it? That's what Joe Madison would say.

Oh, people are calling in.

They got answers.

I love what you do.

Like, I don't think I like, I listened to you on the radio every day, like between you and Joe Madison, that was the two channels that was on in my car on the way to school.

So like, Oh, you

mean back, back in the day?

You know, so many people I, I think get confused, Shawna Renee.

They say, "Oh, why can't y'all get a conviction?" And as, you know, the great Joe Madison and I, we've discussed often, you know, as private citizens, we don't have the power to indict anybody.

Mm-hmm.

We don't have the power to arrest anybody.

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Not only be aware, we think about the great Joe Madison.

You know, go get checked out.

I got to do that myself.

I'm just saying I've not verified that.

Because what happens is, and I remember Joe Madison, the late great Black Eagle, Joe Madison, long may he forever rest in power, saying on his show on the radio, People will come on and say things and they may not be accurate.

They may say things on my show, but they may not remember ever who said it, but they will remember where they heard it.

Oh, you know, it was the Joe Madison show where I heard that.

So we have a real responsibility to get things accurate, to verify things.

Give people the sources so that they can at least look themselves and see that what you're saying is accurate and sourced and So many people just say well I saw this on the radio.

Okay, also piggybacking on Jay, the Arabs would not have had Dearborn had it not been for the strength of black backs.

when Joe Madison called for a boycott of this, a black boycott of the city of Dearborn.

We brought Dearborn to its knees.

And then that's when they started allowing black people to move in, but they weren't selling black people homes.

Of course.

Joe Madison.

Mm-hmm.

He told our stories and he told them well.

And in conversation with his friend Toni Cade Bambara, who worked with him at Scribe and who helped community folks get their voices out at Scribe, he said, Toni said to me when I said, you know, "This story is incomplete." I mean, the story, you know, I hear the testimony, I'm here, but, but I'm, I'm recording this and rebroadcasting it.

And Toni Cade Bambara looked at him and said, "Well, what is your story? What's your perspective on this? What's your take?" She constantly asked, "What's the plan? What you gonna do about it?" As Joe Madison might say.

And Louis said, "Well, that's a good question." She said, he said, "I've been...

I know those people.