Jodi Kantor

And, you know, it's interesting because, I mean, I'm sure you've thought this too, but here was your story, incident, saga that happens in the middle of 2016.

And while the Weinstein news clearly must have been circulating for many years, the the bravery to start to actually look at it, you know, and to investigate both, you know, Jodi Kantor and Megan Toohey and Ronan Farrow, there must have been something that was galvanized

by what happened.

I can tell you 100% it was because of my story.

I'm pretty sure he only has those papers because Congress paid for them and gave them to him, but whatever

whateverThe argument also draws support from Jodi Kantor's recent reporting in The New York Times regarding the papers of Supreme Court justices.

We talked about this article a few weeks ago.

Basically, Jodi reported on how the justices' papers are effectively their private property, and they get to decide when and how they are disclosed to the public.

If there is a massive power gap, if it's Harvey Weinstein, do it in public.

Get Jodi Kantor to write a massive piece on it.

But if it's in community, always begin with baby steps.

But if you don't practice these normal repair skills, even the baby step can feel terrifying.

I think there is a lack of of a collective developed sense for how to use these four years to find and discover your life's work.

Jodi Kantor is best known as the New York Times reporter who helped to bring down Harvey Weinstein.

Along with her colleague Megan Toohey, Kantor exposed years of claims of sexual harassment and assault against the influential Hollywood producer.

It was a career-defining feat of journalism that fueled the MeToo movement and radically reshaped cultural and legal conversations about sexual misconduct.

It actually has a comparatively good record in terms of social mobility for people at the university.

I think about 60% of low-income Columbia students end up wealthy, according to a big study from Raj Chetty and others.

Someone might look at Jodi Kantor and even this book and say, I'm not sure that we need to worry about people at Columbia who might have access not only to a lot of resources of an Ivy League institution, but to sort of a network of hyper-connected and even wealthy classmates and parents, etc.

Did you wrestle at all with that as you wrote this book?

She is brave.

She speaks truth to power and had the courage and the heart to break silence against Harvey Weinstein's sexual abuse with reporter, first breaking silence, Ronan Farrow in The New Yorker and in The New York Times with Jodi Kantor in 2017.

We will talk about Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, about Hollywood and the environment that often enables sexual assault and violence.

We'll talk about being a sexual assault survivor, justice, warrior, and advocate.

after the plot description, too, because I want to get into that.

But so this week we're talking about the 2022 film, she said, directed by Maria Schrader, written by Rebecca Lenkowitz, based on the book, she said, by Jodi Kantor and Megan Toohey, starring...

Carey Mulligan, Zoe Kazan, Patricia Clarkson, Andre Brauer, Jennifer Ely, Samantha Morton, Frank Wood, Tom Pelfrey, Adam Shapiro, Lola Pettigrew, who I totally forgotten was in this, playing the young version of Jennifer Ely, Lola Pettigrew, who is currently on Furious, FX's Furious, Molly Windsor, Peter Friedman, Zach Grenier, special appearance by Ashley Judd, that's my vanity credit, not the movie's, And introducing the voices of James Austin Johnson and Gwyneth Paltrow, among others.

Premiered on October 13th, 2022 at the New York Film Festival and then went into wide release on November 18th, 2022 from Universal.

We are all going through it.

It is a rough time.

And Jodi Kantor at The New York Times gets a tip that Rose McGowan has been raped by or not has been, but like long in the past.

was raped by Harvey Weinstein, and she starts investigating, realizing that there is a, you know, whisper, like, open secret around sexual assault and Harvey Weinstein in particular, including famous actresses like Ashley Judd and Gwyneth Paltrow.

Well-

And one of the shocking things, too, is, you know, Jodi Kantor, who, that really was an amazing, uh, uh, moment that we got to have her on the podcast, but she explained in depth what's going on.

She found memos about the justices sort of acting in a kind of partisan, frustrated way with Joe Biden that, that launches the massive amount of the shadow docket.

By the way, this is an idea that's been around for a while, this emergency docket, but it has just massively increased, and it coincides with the threat-

And the bottom line is they're aware of that.

They don't want us to know.

They know that journalists, and I keep mentioning Jodi Kantor, [laughs] not just 'cause she was a guest, but because she's the one getting all of these documents, and she's documented their s- the story, too, of how they're trying to hide the documents.

They are reading her work, they are seeing what she's getting access to, and they are petrified about it because it reveals them not to be a court of law, but one that is-

I've been thinking a lot about this lately as I manage 20-somethings coming into the workforce.

And Jodi Kantor recently wrote a book called How to Start in Discovering Your Life's Work and was really struck by some of the things that she crystallized in there that were such a feature of the AmeriCorps members' experience and the school improvement partners as well, which was some of these dimensions of being around, as Julian said, high stakes work, real work that they are engaged in, all of the apprenticeship work demonstrates this as well, that they're not off in a corner working on something without being in the conversations with leaders.

And so for our young people to be able to hear the way that a superintendent or a principal was puzzling through the strategic direction of the district, It was a conversation they might have access to for another 10 or 15 years in their career.

So I think there's a lot to be said for that exposure early on and what that enables.