Joby Warrick

You know, what you need to do is organize, mobilize, educate people, you know, get people to respect the rights that they have and know that they should exercise those and be willing to take some flack.

Be willing to get resistance from your family, from your friends.

You've got to be willing to stand up for what you believe.

And you need to be careful about not believing just any Tom, Dick, and Harry that comes down the path.

I am so, so excited tonight to be welcoming Joby Warrick for The Jackal, the rise and fall of Carlos, the world's first super terrorist.

The spectacular rise and dramatic fall of super assassin Carlos the Jackal, one of history's most infamous terrorist masterminds.

Through newly declassified archives, secret witness accounts, and a rare interview with the Jackal himself, acclaimed journalist Joby Warwick reveals a previously hidden side of the man born Ilic Ramirez Sanchez, an ideologically driven figure whose myth was as carefully constructed as his attacks were deadly.

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... written by Joby Warrick, a very interesting conversation.

And my current column is about-- is based on J-Joby's book, making the case, which Joby doesn't necessarily, doesn't make, of the nexus, the clear nexus between communists, between socialists, Islamists and-- Well, communists, Islamists, and terrorists because Carlos was all of the above and is all of the above even in a French prison today.

And ex- ex- a- and this is the-

I spoke with him in March.

If you'd like to catch up on interviews you've missed, like our conversation with actor Lisa Kudrow or with national security correspondent Joby Warrick about his profile on a notorious terrorist known as The Jackal, check out our podcast.

You'll find lots of Fresh Air interviews.

You can also watch some of our interviews on our YouTube page, This Is Fresh Air.

But we're, you know, they're talking about $10 million and $20 million, which is a lot of money, but we're talking about things that are in the millions with these guys.

You know? And, and, and I came up with a line the other day with Joby Warrick.

We're gonna have another episode with him coming out on Tuesday, his fourth time on the podcast.

Really, really enjoyed that one.

John Powers reviewed Diara from Detroit, now in its second season.

Tomorrow on Fresh Air, national security writer Joby Warrick tells the story of Carlos the Jackal, the world's most notorious terrorist in the '70s and '80s.

He became so famous for his brazen attacks and playboy lifestyle that once, when he was releasing hostages from a hijacked plane, several asked him for autographs.

I hope you can join us.