Do you mean like a sort of escapism or a sort of compartmentalizing?

No, denial is probably a form of escapism.

Just, I mean, and my, you know, my remedy for all of us is to remain in denial most of the time.

And then when you come out of it, do something.

I mean, really do something.

It's hard for people because you have a vision of I'm going to do something, it's going to change everything.

probably isn't now.

Do you feel like there is something uniquely dangerous about this moment?

Do you mean like a sort of escapism or a sort of compartmentalize?

No, denial is probably a form of escapism.

My remedy for all of us is to remain in denial most of the time.

And then when you come out of it, do something.

I mean, really, do something.

It's hard for people because you have a vision of, I'm going to do something, it's going to change everything.

It probably isn't now.

Would you credit Baghdad with a lot of that?

[clapping] [instrumental music]

[instrumental music][singing] Wade in the water.

Wade in the water, children.

Wade in the water.

God's gonna trouble the waters.

Who's that yonder dressed in red? God's gonna trouble the waters.

Just some people from my neighborhood.

You wanna know how Joan Baez developed her astonishing vibrato?

I went home and stood in front of the mirror, and I wobbled my Adam's apple up and down with my finger.

Duh.

[laughs] Till I started developing vibrato.

And I did that long enough, it began happening on its own.

There is nothing natural about me, and I have no problem with that.

I enjoyed my stay in jail.

It was very minimum security.