But they are now opening a PJ's on Maple Street in New Orleans.

All I know is I, I could drink all kind of coffee now 'cause I like coffee, but I like that Maple Street, Glenn.

But that was good, too, right there.

What that's called, Crew Boat Thirty-Four?

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so, so little history there people don't know, the Methodist Episcopal Ch- the, the Methodist movement come out of the Episcopal Church or the Anglican Church.

So it was called the Methodist Episcopal Church.

Uh, but in 18, and the final blow was 1828, that's when the final blow, but it started before the turn of the century.

Um, in America, the Methodists were saying, "Wait a minute, everything is being run by the clergy," and the laypeople who, in many cases were educated, and deacons and things of that nature you mentioned, th- they weren't given a voice at all in the direction where church was going.

Well, this is one of the criticisms, this, this really was Luther's biggest issue with the Catholic Church originally.

the same thing with Episcopals.

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... it's, it's, it's obviously there, that's her context, is the, the faith in the God of Israel.

But that's her point is there's something bigger than me that matters more than me, a- and I have to have, uh, I, I need to stand for what matters, stand for what is right.

And this was where I kinda got going down the rabbit hole with it yesterday was I was 10 years in the Marine Corps, the idea of courage in battle, that idea, you know, we, we give people medals for, for, for their courage and things like that.

What does that really look like? What does that mean? And it always gets back to kind of what Glenn hit at, is th- there's, through ...

The, the courage has to be because there's something you see that's bigger than you individually, that's more important than you as an individual, that, that it matters to society.

In combat it matters to the unit.

How would you apply the, the story of Deborah? Did I, did I do okay describing Deborah? Okay.