Jim Langton

But how did you feel in the years leading up to it? Because Cork teams and Munster teams were dominating.

Yeah, well, I thought I was at a final in Croke Park with Jim Langton and Mick Nary and the late Christy Ring.

And we were talking about the match.

I think Johnstown were hurling in it.

And I said we could win that if we got out of Kilkenny.

And Jim Langton laughed at me.

Jim Langton said, you couldn't win your own championship.

I said, you're probably right, I said.