Jim Edgar

And even Republican governors, to be able to work with Democratic majorities, had a pretty close relationship at the staff level where they could work things out.

I think toward the end of his tenure, Jim Edgar said at one point that he worked better with Mike Madigan than he did with Republican leadership in the legislature.

I would say, and this is being snotty, I would say as a Chicago mayor, he was a much better union organizer.

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We're, you know, coming off...

Uh, um, the, the 87, uh, you had Illinois and some troubles and then 91, there was a recession, uh, and, uh, Jim Edgar held the line and, and then ultimately, but in the year had, uh, by then it's, um, the 90 year, the cash surplus.

Uh, but again, it's, it involves, you know, what's the first step.

The first step is don't spend money you don't have.

I, I don't know.

He, he'll, he'll definitely be the best governor we've had since Jim Edgar, which I think was back in the late '80s, early '90s.

So, I mean, we're looking at more than 30 years since we've had a governor like this.

And whoever he picks for a DNR director, it's gonna be someone that, that he vets out, and that, you know, he, he believes in, and that I- is go- has ...