Jillian Harris

Yes.

So he finished seventh place on Jillian Harris' season.

And I remember on Jillian's season, there was a man who had a girlfriend the entire season.

And upon Jake leaving, he returned to tell Jillian, just letting you know, this guy has a girlfriend.

And she was also, I believe, in Bachelor Pad.

Yes.

And she ended up getting with Kipton, who I think was also part of Jillian Harris' season.

And at this time in the Bachelor franchise, a lot of them moved to San Diego.

I was like, "Why wouldn't you just put your name in there? I think that in itself would, would entice people to want to come onto your next venture." And you could see that that like that kinda stirred a little bit of something in her.

And, and then we talked about like, you know, well, I'm not Joanna Gaines or like Jillian Harris, or whatever it is, whatever the name is.

Oprah, okay? Well, I'm not Oprah.

Um, but like at one point in time, this is what I said to her, I said, "At one point in time, Oprah was just a g- a woman living in a house, or Joanna Gaines was literally just Joanna, or Martha Stewart was literally just Martha Stewart at one time." And you know, there was ...

Yeah.

So we had, how did that work? We had like three hours of sleep and then we flew out on the plane to see you and Jillian Harris.

Um, I had did a swag bag to a lot of the speakers there and Jillian Harris called out, um, one of our earrings and it like, I was in the hotel room and we were supposed to be coming to see you and my phone was lighting up.

My husband was trying to fill orders and we just, yeah, we ran out of supplies and we had to order more.

And it was a good problem to have.