Jill Greenberg

He has an enormous amount of presence.

And he and his wife run this hotel in addition to him being chef at this restaurant and a sister hotel called Villa Aqua, which is also in Orto San Giulio.

Anyway, the food is incredible.

Unbelievable.

Those are the things that you remember the most.

So we kind of gave ourselves over to kintsugi, right? Maybe the flaws are what make it beautiful.

So we just were really – and this goes to the next decision – We decided that we were going to ask your brother Kim and my sister Jill, who had bonded at your son Jonathan's wedding to his bride Erin, which was an amazingly beautiful wedding.

They had kind of bonded at this, and we were like, let's ask Jill and Kim to officiate.

And I want to float in here.

The other thing that happened was our friend Jill Greenberg, who I have spoken about reverently on this podcast, a renowned, award-winning photographer with work in museums all over the world.

You have seen her photography.

She's exceptionally talented.