Jill Abramson

Yeah, that was a great story.

Don and I are now friends, even though he outed me as one of the elves who wrote the Paula Jones brief, he and Jill Abramson, on the front page of the New York Times, which got me and a lot of people at my law firm weren't real happy about that.

at the

time.

You know, the president of Stanford a few years ago lost his job.

for being credibly accused of plagiarism, Jill Abramson at the New York Times.

She was the executive editor and was credibly accused of plagiarism and moved on to Harvard.

But did lose her position at the Times.

Uh, a fascinating take on that.

And of course, Jill Abramson, the, the former executive editor

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Yeah, that's, that was, that was a great story.

Don and I are now friends, even though he, he outed me as one of the elves who wrote the Paula Jones brief, he and Jill Abramson, and on the front page of The New York Times, which got me in, in, uh, a lot of people at my law firm weren't real happy about that at the time.

[laughs] But-

That seems, people being unhappy with you, colleagues, um, it seem- it seems like that's a running story of your life, though.

I did not think of journalism that way.

So Jill Abramson, who was the first female executive editor at The New York Times, told me to think of The New York Times as the ultimate buffet for a writer.

You could do a book review.

You could be a food critic.