Jihadi John

I mean, it's all so spurious, isn't it? It's all so notional.

One minute, the leader of Syria is like Jihadi John and we need to get him and we need to fight him and he's a terrorist and we must in no way, shape or form negotiate with him and we must arrest children who've been groomed, who fly out to join ISIS.

But then he runs Syria and because that's convenient to Britain and The West, Europe and America, suddenly a man who was a high level wanted terrorist, the leader of Syria, al-Qaeda operative or ISIS operative, is suddenly no longer a terrorist.

Oh, right.

Our lovely mayor, the mayor, Sadiq Khan, who really quite lovely guy, used to be the lawyer for actual Islamic terrorists.

He represented the group of terrorists which included Jihadi John.

Do you remember the guy that beheaded somebody? He was the lawyer for that group.

apparently uh so yeah so we've got a lovely lawyer that um sorry we've got a lovely mayor that used to be a lawyer that represented islamic terrorists and um but that's okay but what's not okay is to burn wood in london so unfortunately this is as close as i get unless i go a little mini break for the weekend

Shall we go there? Shall we go there? Yeah, weird one that, isn't it? The notion of what a terrorist is, is totally subjective and relative to what Western leaders need from a country.

And so a man who's running Syria, who I think was like as awful a terrorist as Jihadi John.

And do you remember all that? He was as much of a wanted ISIS terrorist terrorist as you can get.

But because he became leader of Syria, suddenly everyone's like, oh, OK, we can shake his hand.

which is a government based on Islamic law.

We in the West have become familiar with scenes like Jihadi John.

Kuwaiti born Londoner speaking with a British accent who has slain so many journalists.

We have seen him in his black suit and we've seen these journalists dressed in their orange jumpsuits and we've seen the knife at their throat as they have been executed.

And it is amazing to me.

Why would you want to see this? What is, I mean, what, did you enjoy Jihadi John when he was, you know, cutting off the heads of people? I mean, the fact is, is that no, this is, there's a certain portion of our society who for whatever reason has no moral standing anymore.

This is not something that, that should be televised.

I agree with Scott, this guy should just go away and, and let it be over and done with.

Mm-hmm

... by Jihadi John or whatever.

Um, like, there's not video of him actually being beheaded.

Uh, none of those actual beheadings that ISIS did show them actually beheading someone on their videos.