Jewel

In these instances, it's so important that we realize that it does not mean something is wrong with us.

and i'll start with a story about the song singer-songwriter jewel you know jewel that i really really like she said something so profound and the story was that when she was eight her mother left and her father was also abusive himself and so at 15 jewel left home and you know she went through an incredible journey there she would sleep in her car and she would take odd jobs and she would start singing wherever she could along along the west coast Before people knew her for being an incredible singer, she was a woman trying to survive.

And when Jewel talks about this time, when she talks about the anxiety she felt, she offered what I think is such a profoundly compassionate way of understanding oneself.

She said, quote, if I eat bad fish and I get food poisoning and I throw up, something's not wrong with me.

Something's right with me.

Things like anxiety are your body's way of communicating inner conflict.

And I think that's so great.

Jewel's point, of course, is that, you know, negative feelings like stress, fear, doubt, anxiety work well.

them.

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I don't know.

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I just, I don't know.

What happened to Jewel, though? Because I haven't heard her name.

I mean, that was probably 20 years ago that I saw her.

This was before Taylor Swift kind of revolutionized that for everyone or made it a bigger conversation.

But I had some heroes like Jewel.

who really were outspoken about owning your music, knowing the ins and outs of the business, setting yourself up for a long career, not just a successful career, being in it for the craft, how to...

Like, for example, she refused an advance on her first record and instead got all the points and the ownership on the backside because she thought it would never be successful and she didn't want to be beholden to the label.

And then when it was successful, she ended up making so much more money than she ever would have made and having the ownership of her

art.

But so just those kind of voices in my head early on, even before I knew Jewel, now she's a friend, but before I knew her, I just studied the way that she set up her career.

And so I wanted to...

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song.

Intuition.

I've always visualized different singers being like, so if you had to receive very bad news, not to go dark, but it's sort of a dark lyric.

If you had to receive terrible news, who would you want to receive that from? What kind of vocal would that be? Maybe it's Jewel.

Jewel has such a pretty voice or, you know, you'll come across someone with just a sweet delivery that's nice to your ears.

Okay.

And so that was my way of getting into that character and that scenario saying like, hey, we've been through the rough waters here and it's going to be okay.

And with me today is a special guest, Carla Ondrasik, who was a keynote speaker recently at the ESOP Association's annual Chief Financial Officer Summit, which we held out in Sonoma, California.

And Carla has had an amazing career helping creative artists, singers, and songwriters like Cher and Mariah Carey and Barbra Streisand and Jewel in her career as the Vice President of Creative Writer Development at EMI Music Publishing.

So Carla, welcome to The Ownership Effect.

Thank you.

So just turned 2009.

And we were in here and we looked across the hallway and Jewel was standing there.

And so Superstar said, I'll be right back.

He walked over and he asked her if she'd come on the radio.

Trip.

Thank you for joining the Power Trip morning show.

It's Jewel, by the way, everybody.

It's Jewel.