Jessica Benjamin

So here's where depth psychology offers something that I think a lot of like nervous systems models kind of miss.

So there's a psychoanalyst named Jessica Benjamin, and she did a lot of work on what she called intersubjectivity.

And so her work on intersubjectivity made a distinction that when I was kind of researching and thinking about this, I was going to say conversation, but then I guess episode, right? Both.

Conversation with myself.