Jesse Tannenbaum

We're, we're, we're harping on Devin today.

We're, we're harping on Devin, but we're harping on Devin because [sighs] Jesse Tannenbaum keeps, keeps on putting people on our screen that say, "I'm going to play an honest game of Survivor." Like they, they keep, they keep on putting like naive people on our screen, and everybody knows you can't, like you can't play a truthful game of Survivor and win.

You just can't.

But you know what? I'm gonna give, I'm gonna give Jesse some, some credit here as like, yeah, he's not gonna win.

Two things then.

Well, first of all, Kathy, like... back like right after your elimination you said something that broke my heart which is like I feel like I haven't like finished telling my story and I feel like that is like absolutely the truth and like I feel like this obviously like is not the end for you like I feel like there's so much more like survivor here you come like I hope Jesse Tannenbaum is watching like hello that better be what's going on um But also, just a question for you, Kathy, because I was wondering about this.

In the three games I played in 99 to

Beat,

I feel no pressure.

No one ever says, "Can you count the numbers again, and look at the... " Nobody says that, but Jesse Tannenbaum, who runs our casting team, knows there's no stopping, not because, uh, it's, uh, we're told to do it.

Mm-hmm.

This is what we need.

We, we're known for finding people that you've never met that you can't stop watching.

Yeah.

That's because our team, led by Jesse, it used to be Lynn Spillman years ago, but it's Jesse Tannenbaum now.

Lynn Spillman, GOAT.

But it's, so it makes it easy to, to build the show.

And then for Survivor 51, we said to our casting team, led by Jesse Tannenbaum, "You thought 50 was tough.

51 has to be one of the greatest casts we've ever had." And that was the goal, and you can ask the players.

We, we had a little cheat sheet, and the cheat sheet was we would go through casting, which is a very long process, and all along we're keeping notes, and one of the notes was 51.

There might be a lot of people from MLB that are ready to go play Survivor in March, in Survivor 53.

Listen, I'm just saying, Jesse Tannenbaum, uh, if there is a lockout, I could think of a theme season.

Maybe Jeff Kent will come back to host, newly enshrined Hall of Fame member, and hopefully Mike will be in the Hall of Fame.

So Mike is really putting forward this idea that I think Kyle Frasier vocalized really well in his Survivor 48 interviews that he did of, like, I'm the most average guy you're ever gonna meet.