So for people who don't really understand that, I wonder if you could kind of just in a brief but concise way explain, one, are they publishers? If they are publishers, How are they either the same or different than a newspaper or a TV station? And if they are different from a newspaper or TV station, then how do they get to call themselves publishers? And what's this Section 230 all about?

A publisher for First Amendment purposes, where we're just looking to see does the First Amendment apply, is a person or an entity or an institution that is in the business of communicating information to an audience first.

through the use of editorial decision-making.

And so this idea of what a publisher is has broadened.

It's broadened from newspapers to broadcast TV, to cable companies, to internet, search engines, social media.

Now we're starting to have this question about AI.

The idea for First Amendment protection is not around, and the courts make this very clear, we don't care about what the actual medium is.

But maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but that's how I'm seeing it, because I don't see the law fixing it.

Do you think that these rulings create any tension between civil liability and First Amendment protections that the courts haven't fully addressed or resolved yet?

Yeah, it's a great question.

I'm gonna do the law professor thing and ignore it and then come back to it.

Um, so I wanted to come back to, uh, uh, sort of the opioid framing, some of the remarks that, uh, Jeremy made.

Um, I- uh, I'm glad that it was referenced, uh, you sort of framed it as the opioid, uh, litigation because I've been thinking the same thing as well.

We've been seeing a lot of the analogies to the big tobacco, um, and I think actually you're right, Jeremy, I think procedurally, I think this looks a lot like what we saw, um, with the opioid crisis.

But I wanna be really careful about a couple things, especially because it is Mental Health Awareness Month as well, and I think, and because I study and research in this area, I think it's important we get some of these things straight.

I am gonna throw it to Jess to talk about the mental health point, and then we are going to open it up to the audience to ask their questions.

Do you wanna sort of run us through the episode and then maybe some of your concerns?

Yeah, I'll give some high level.

So, um, I echo everything you said.

I am...

I'm a big John Oliver fan.

It, it would be an honor if anyone from his team ends up listening to this episode as well.

So just starting off with that, and I assigned, um, the content moderation episode.

Just to clarify, the KnowMe being the AI character that is conversing with the human user.