Jerusalem Demsas

The Arguments, a podcast with two legends in the game, the founder of The Arguments, Jerusalem Dempsis and Matt Yglesias.

We have a, frankly, like pretty unhinged conversation about American politics, Chinese politics, artificial intelligence, corruption, and Kanye West at the state dinner.

I am really excited to share it with all you guys.

Thanks for having us.

Hi, everyone.

My name is Jerusalem Dempsis.

I'm Matthew Yglesias.

And this is the Argument Podcast.

Hello, everyone.

My name is Jerusalem Demsas.

I'm Matthew Yglesias.

And this is The Argument podcast.

What the heck?

Yeah.

You know, my, my big takeaway, Jerusalem, is that human beings are frail.

And when they get older, they get increasingly frail.

But, like, Marine Le Pen is just correct about the air conditioning.

[laughs] Hi, I'm Jerusalem Demsas.

I'm Matthew Yglesias.

And welcome to The Argument.

He's lived in Germany all his life, but that he is elevated into a post-national- ... position.

Yeah.

In which he's very interested in Ukraine, and he's interested in the European Union, and he's interested in the West, and he's interested in liberalism, and he would probably have a good time hanging out with Jerusalem Demsas.

And-

There's no eight parties in China.

Hi, I'm Jerusalem Demsis.

I'm Matthew Iglesias.

And welcome to The Argument.

This is the thing that always worries me about religious people who I

think – Matt doesn't want to be direct about this.

You, Jerusalem.

You specifically.