Jerry Ortiz y Pino

That'll take us to 10:30 at Write On 4 Corners, our local and regional author program.

And this week, host Delcherie Spinner is talking, uh, with former New Mexico politician, now author, Jerry Ortiz Y Pino, talking about his book, Beyond the Edge of the Known World.

That is coming up, that conversation, at 10:30 on KSJE today.

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[upbeat music] Welcome to Conversations Differ, a podcast from the Santa Fe New Mexican about interesting people, places, and issues of Northern New Mexico.

Today, we have the pleasure of talking to former senator Jerry Ortiz y Pino, and more importantly for the purposes of this podcast, a published author with his first book, Beyond the Edge of the Known World.

We are talking to him ahead of two events he's got, and he'll tell us about those.

And first of all, we just wanna say thank you, Senator, for driving up from Albuquerque and talking to us.

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Thank you.

[upbeat guitar music] We are back with Conversations Different, talking to Senator Jerry Ortiz y Pino about, uh, a book he wrote on a constitutional convention in Spain that took months and months for a New Mexican to get there, and best of all, he got to pay for everything himself.

Uh, I wonder, did you figure out in your research how much that cost him?