Jerry Hey

Kim S. Hutchcroft.

on baritone sax, Jerry Hay on trumpet, who had played on Thriller, as well as a million other songs, Chris, and the background vocalists, that's what I wanted to talk to you about real quick, were Denise Minelli-Decaro, Stephanie Sprill, Marty McCall, and Joey Scarberry.

Do you know who Joey Scarberry is, Chris?

walking on air

in metal music, which is a full-on trumpet section.

There's obviously a few bands that kind of do it, like Thank You Scientist is a band that springs to mind, and There's some others out there, but I think in terms of the way I was doing it, I was doing it more of like a kind of Jerry Hay style, like massive kind of three, sometimes three or four kind of harmonies with...

But in that kind of Phrygian sound, like Monuments is very much like in that Phrygian realm.

He absolutely loves that.

there, Red Roads.

And Dick Slighthide on trombone, Jerry Hay, Steve Madayo

on trumpet.

If I remember, I knew this album, I know the name and face.

he's reacting to what you did, you know, so it's like a musical conversation.

And that's the exact way Jerry Hay wrote all of his horn charts.

He would say, have everything else done.

Yeah.

Correct.

I remember reading an interview of Jerry Hay, amazing trumpeter, horn arranger, and on all those classic funk and disco and soul records, MJ, he always said the horns always played everything for Tissimo.

Oh, yeah.

Because even if it was going to be dialed down in the mix, it had to feel like it was loud.