Jerry Baker

But, uh, you don't have to do anything physical to them.

There used to be a garden broadcaster who was on Dinah Shore's radio, uh, TV program, Jerry Baker, and Jerry would talk about going out and beating tree trunks to make the trees better and that was just...

I had, uh, I had the opportunity once at a Garden Writers National Convention of driving him around town in Dallas, and it was [laughs] it was quite a, quite a day.

I was his escort and it was an experience.