And I feel like your books really, like, y- you definitely don't feel like you're eating your vegetables when you're reading it.

Right.

Well, I think the funny thing is a big part of it too because I think in...

When somebody was asking me for, um, the Spanish translation of Gay Bar, they were asking me about sort of, like, the criteria of when I'm, when I'm doing research about, like, basically what makes it into the book.

And it's like I have found that in places that I didn't expect it, Supreme Court opinions, police reports, all this kind of, like, legal and bureaucratic stuff

stuffUh, there's, like, so much humor and absurdity and, of course, hypocrisy and just ridiculousness.

And, like, so that's what I always am try- that's what I always am kind of on the hunt for is, like, there's a part in Gay Bar where undercover cops in a club in Soho in the 1930s, and they're, like, dancing with these flamboyant figures and looking for these signals of, um, y- you know, it's, it...

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... for like the queer, the queer community.

Sure.

I mean, th- this particular situation that we found ourselves in, uh, my partner and I fell in love before the advent of gay marriage, and so for the, the immigration pathways that are attendant with, um, with marriage.

And I kinda knew, we, so we were long distance for three years, and then, you know, um, in the book you follow that, that part a bit through our, um, letters and mix tapes that we were sending to each other.

And then he overstayed in San Francisco, like the final visit, he just didn't board his plane back to the UK.

And, um, I think I kind of, I think I kinda always knew I was gonna write about it, because it w- it's a, y- I mean, it w- there was a m- I, you know, they say it was this somewhere around 30,000 binational same-sex couples in the, in the early 2000s, um, in the United States.

Obviously not all of them with somebody, uh, living as an undocumented resident.

So what I would love to learn from you is what are the issues that we need to know that we don't know around migration and love and relationships you're focusing on in the book?