Jens Spahn

Und wenn du so an die Sache rangehst, was kann passieren? Man kann nur deinen Zustand ändern, weil Tod ist ein Geschenk, ein riesiges Geschenk.

Du weißt genau, was ich meine, was Tod für ein Geschenk ist, weil man lebt danach intensiver, aber der Tod ist insofern ein Geschenk, weil niemand gezwungen ist, für immer auf diesem Planeten mit Frau von der Leyen, Jens Spahn und Bill Gates leben zu müssen.

Das ist doch ein Geschenk.

Feierst du das eigentlich? [lacht]

You have the Merz people who basically say, Brandmauer, AfD is right-wing and that's the end of the country.

But you have people like Jens Spahn and others say smart and still career leaders EU-oriented CDU politicians who see since long that if they can't be blocked and that they must need something.

And so you have voices within the CDU who say, look, I mean, if it can't be avoided, let's jump on the train and do black, black, blue, right? So that is one thing.

In the case that you have the three parties, that would be make five parties of opposition, CDU, Linke, SPD, Grüne und BSW.

They've been pushed in that direction, but so many of their politicians have... gone along with this and embraced this.

And a big part of this summer was you had the situation where one of the politicians, Jens Spahn, from one of the most conservative parties, was forced to resign because he and his quote-unquote husband had bought a child.

I mean, this is insane that this is where we are in the whole surrogacy movement.

I think we need to write an article exposing that.

We did a

similar thing at the Munich Security Conference with Jens Spahn, right? Yes.

So maybe we should post that as well.

And now we're waiting for Julia Saudelli, who covers the Greens, which are... a very interesting party these days, as Richard mentioned before, when it comes, for example, to their position on Ukraine.

And it basically is a, is an analysis of saying that the people who are voting for the AfD have got lots of very good reasons so to do.

You then get to page, the main feature, two-page spread, pages 14 and 15, predicting or r- a scenario analyzing what a Vidal government in coalition with Jens Spahn, who's a kind of, you know, leading CDU politician, would look like in 2033.

It is openly, aggressively, in my view, pushing for the AfD.

So this is the guy who's got The Telegraph, who at the time we were saying was much more reasonable than the other guy who was coming in.