When you see something like that, how seriously do you take it? And what do state law enforcement officials do to prepare for all of this?

Well, I think when you hear something like that, it is outlandish and crazy.

That's the basic truth.

It would be absolutely crazy.

But do I put it past this president? Absolutely not.

He is a crazy president.

He is growing more and more extreme because his popularity is in the gutters.

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printed long ago there.

So I just certified the ballot a couple of days ago.

OK, but the envelopes that the ballots go in are largely printed.

We have to the county clerks have to urgently print now to make sure that they are ready to hit the mail stream.

And I think at the end of the day, a state like Colorado, we have in-person voting if someone chooses.

But we mail a ballot to every active voter.

I mean, they've split the baby more than once.

When you hear about this whistleblower report tonight and their concerns about this, are you worried that all of those voters are not going to be able to get a ballot?

Well, first, thanks for having me.

And I think it's abundantly clear that Trump is trying to use the Postal Service to decide which voters get a ballot.

Right now, the Postal Service is blocked from implementing his executive order.

That is the legal basis from the Postal Service intervening in elections.

The case is ongoing.

But I do think it's highly concerning what the whistleblower has announced.

Is that how you is that your understanding of what the Postal Service has been doing?

Can I ask, when you communicate with Republican colleagues in different states, Are they on board of what they're being asked to do?

Well, that's a great question.

I think it depends.

There is definitely some Republican secretaries of state who have drank the Kool-Aid, very unfortunately.

But we've also seen chief election officers who are Republicans stand up to this administration.

A couple weeks ago, the DOJ sent out a threatening letter to chief election officials across the nation, and you heard strong Republican pushback.

So I think it's important to recognize there are Republicans standing up, especially at the local level.

So what is the Democratic state argument? And how do you expect Justice Katonji Brown Jackson, who will be considering Trump's application, to respond?

And let's note, a Republican-led investigation looked into Michigan's 2020 election and found no evidence of widespread or systematic fraud, right? So is the federal government within its rights to observe polling sites? Because I'm curious where the line is between oversight and disruption or interference.

So we've seen since 2016, if not before, Trump really lean into his big lie.

And he has been doubling down on it, the lie about the elections in this country.

And honestly, I imagine it's because he knows that MAGA and his movement may face tremendous losses.

So they're laying the groundwork to undermine the 26th election.

As long as observers are following the law, it's fine.

But of course, it's illegal under state and federal law in Colorado and in many states to disrupt the peaceful administration of an election.

Does that even make sense? Isn't that what their job is?