Are you guys able to describe for us what the pre-hospital evidence-based practice program is or describe PEP for us?

Yeah, yeah, I can speak to that.

I'm the program coordinator for the pre-hospital evidence-based practice project, fondly known of as PEP.

And so PEP is meant to be a free online repository of appraised EMS literature.

And so It sort of functions as a living systematic review, so to speak, and we search the medical databases, PubMed, every single month so that we're always as up-to-date as we possibly can be in picking out all the studies that meet our criteria to inform clinical practice for EMS globally.

And we have a team, I just counted recently, we're at 99 global appraisers across the world that are involved volunteering to critically appraise these studies and tell us how this evidence contributes to our knowledge about EMS practice.

And so that becomes available on our website and it's for anybody to use from any level of paramedic perspective.

Can you talk a little bit about that?

But what has brought you, like, up to this point? What are you focusing on in your practice, uh, these days, and kinda how did you get here?

Hmm.

Great question.

So, uh, for undergrad I was at McMaster in the arts and science program, and I would say that, um, catapulted me into naturopathic medicine, because I found out about it at a job fair at Mac, so that was very auspicious.

Um, but also I had this, uh, model of learning that was problem-based and inquiry-based.

It created a hungry mind, or it reinforced a hungry mind is probably a little more accurate, as any good learning institution would do.

And then I joined Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine and graduated in 2000, and initially I was working in Toronto.

... like, can you just elaborate on, like, what, how you embrace that idea of individualized medicine?

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And I s- and I respond back and I say, "So absolutely not.

Like, you, we're not playing that game." And I also say to people, "You notice that I do not have a question mark." It is a rhetorical question because I am demanding that we all, and I include myself deeply in the we all, we all have to look at our biases.

We all have to look at our grooming.

So I hear you speaking about Disney and stories, and it's super important.

It's a big piece of what I speak about.

I am an early childhood educator in the Waldorf methodology.

Dancing, movement, shaking is one of the most powerful ways on a somatic level to remove trauma from our body, from our cells, from our fascia, and I, I was wondering if that was even something that was conscious when you were starting to dance in your kitchen.