Jen Easterly
Former United States Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security AgencyWikipedia
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Sep 11, 2026
Sam CurryGUEST
But then in particular, get good at availability and resilience.
Sam CurryGUEST
Jen Easterly, who used to run CISA, spoke at Black Hat about resilience.
Sam CurryGUEST
We emphasize it, but everybody should be thinking, how do I make sure I can do a rollback? Have I tested my backup and my recovery? Am I thinking about disaster recovery and business continuity? These aren't even cyber questions.
Sam CurryGUEST
This is just basic hygiene.
Angus LotenGUEST
But Just to back up a bit, okay, not to be too dramatic here, but there's been a kind of darkening cloud around the Federal Cybersecurity Agency, or at least more so than most federal agencies, since about early 2025.
Angus LotenGUEST
And that's when the last full-time permanent director left, Jen Easterly.
Angus LotenGUEST
Since then, the agency has gone through a cast of these acting directors.
Angus LotenGUEST
And right now, it's being led by a cyber industry pro named Nick Anderson.
Alyssa AbdullahGUEST
So there's a double-edged sword in everything.
Alyssa AbdullahGUEST
Jen Easterly, I've had a conversation with her and she said quite eloquently, and I'm going to steal it from her.
Alyssa AbdullahGUEST
You don't create the ship without creating the shipwreck.
Alyssa AbdullahGUEST
You don't create electricity without creating electrocution.
Rich StroffolinoHOST
Basically saying, Is this a viable model? Uh, Jonathan, CISA retreating, uh, uh, uh, just as the administration is launching a pilot for a public-private critical initiative structure initiative seems like curious timing here.
Rich StroffolinoHOST
Do you think something like, uh, this kind of public-private partnership has a better chance of reaching more critical infrastructure providers? We'd seen that there was a lot of goodwill kind of coming out of the Jen Easterly, you know, CISA administration there-
Jonathan WaldropGUEST
Yep
Rich StroffolinoHOST
... with building out these kind of free tooling sets.
Steven MurrayHOST
But again, just like with cyber, it took us 10 years to convince the military, you really need to get professionals.
Steven MurrayHOST
I mean, I can remember sitting at NSA and sitting in front of Keith Alexander and Jen Easterly, who went on to run CISO.
Steven MurrayHOST
I can't stand.
Steven MurrayHOST
And literally... saying to them, we need a dedicated cyber force with all the branches.
Karen GreenbergHOST
First of all, um, that this i- the idea of AI.
Karen GreenbergHOST
I think you probably saw the op-ed by Jen Easterly, the former head of CISA, that was really an a- an, an amazing alarm call, which is we are not managing AI, um, really in any way and, you know, the lights are blinking red and we know we've heard this before, and we're telling you this now.
Karen GreenbergHOST
So I wanna follow up a little bit on, on Jeff's question about, um, what's happened to the agency, not after 9/11, but now.
Karen GreenbergHOST
Because we read repeatedly about, you know, the, it getting, it smaller and smaller, that people are leaving, that people are being fired, that people aren't being paid, when they leave their severance p- you know, right? Have you seen these, these, uh, articles.
Will EvansNARRATOR
Our next article, it carries the headline, The Warning Lights Are Blinking Again.
Will EvansNARRATOR
This is from the opinion page, and it's written by Jen Easterly.
Will EvansNARRATOR
We have a dangerous habit of taking warning signs seriously only after a catastrophe has taught us what they meant.
Will EvansNARRATOR
I have spent much of my career on the other side of such warnings in counterterrorism and cyber defense.
Arjun RamakrishnanGUEST
It's only a, like an incident needs to happen before we realize.
Arjun RamakrishnanGUEST
I think Jen Easterly says it best, right? It's, it's a failure of imagination.
Arjun RamakrishnanGUEST
We've got to guard ourselves against that failure, right? We have to imagine, no matter how ludicrous it is, that the scenario Can be possible.
Arjun RamakrishnanGUEST
Like, I don't think three years ago anybody would have seriously taken me if I went and said, "Yeah, agents are going to start hacking out of infrastructure, hacking out of the sandbox, going to public, uh, paste bins, searching for leaked API keys, and then hacking into another organization." That, for me, is the most, uh, uh, amazing part about all of these incidents.
Will EvansNARRATOR
Our next article, it carries the headline, The Warning Lights Are Blinking Again.
Will EvansNARRATOR
This is from the opinion page, and it's written by Jen Easterly.
Will EvansNARRATOR
We have a dangerous habit of taking warning signs seriously only after a catastrophe has taught us what they meant.
Will EvansNARRATOR
I have spent much of my career on the other side of such warnings in counterterrorism and cyber defense.
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