Do you think that's kind of a through line that you've seen through your career? And is it going to be genuinely different this time, do you think, with AI?

That's really interesting, James, the way you put it with the way we had, you know, networking and then we sort of assumed it was all good.

We had the occasional worm or, you know, a few, you know, different types of intrusions.

And then and then we said, you know what, we need to develop this thing called a firewall to separate our internal network from our external network.

And then we're good.

You know, everything inside our firewall is safe.

You can do whatever you want.

So where do you think the industry is going in the next few years and what should people be thinking about?

So what are some of the key things related to agentic authentication, authorization and security that people should be aware of? So people who don't know anything.

Well, yeah, I think it's You mentioned that people don't know a lot about it.

I've found that there is a lot of lack of awareness in the industry about identity and what needs to be done.

And what I find is that people that are very... excited about agentic use cases, and they should be.

They're very powerful.

They're very delightful.

It's moving so quickly.

financial database? Why is it trying to go to bill.com or something like that?