Jeff Goodell

uh things that are happening either at the bottom of the ocean or somewhere else in the world and so we were just trying to look for something to to make it a little more relevant and accessible to our readers

well and especially in wisconsin where i mean i think you know we have a lot of people in door county who are extremely concerned about climate change but it is harder to make that tangible when you're talking about rising sea levels and and so many of the frameworks that we often talk about it when we're talking about it decades in the future um we're talking long-term horizons and making it tangible to people up here where we are largely fortunately sheltered from wildfires hurricanes rising sea level a lot of the hallmark phrases and issues related to climate change and I think I talked to Jeff Goodell, the author.

I don't know if you've heard of him.

But he wrote a book called The Water Will Come.

No, it's not.

Jeff Goodell, who's the author of a book called The Heat Will Kill You First, Life and Death on a Scorched Planet, wrote a guest opinion piece in The New York Times yesterday in which he said, quote, that the Roberts Court is the place where climate action goes to die.

He says the Supreme Court, quote, has made any kind of regulatory structure or legal action on climate very difficult, end quote.

You agree with that? And do you understand why the high court would ignore the mandate that is set out in the first paragraph of the United States Constitution to promote the general welfare act? And it seems to me that clean air and water and mitigating climate change promotes the general welfare.

Geoengineering, the deliberate large-scale manipulation of the Earth's climate to offset global warming, is a nightmare fix for climate change.

A quote from author Jeff Goodell.

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