Jeff Bleich

Which is the mature response.

And you have Jeff Bleich, a former US ambassador to Australia, now acting as an envoy, stating point blank that these risks are no longer theoretical.

That phrase, no longer theoretical, is the hinge point of this entire conversation.

Because you might be tempted to look at the Australian breach as a localized fluke, you know, a bizarre routing error on the global internet.

But today we bring our listeners another great session from the recent CineDialogue AI Masterclass.

This one with Politico's Ryan Heath interviewing Anthropic's Jeff Bleich, well known to Australians as a former US ambassador to Canberra.

It came within hours of Anthropic CEO Dario Amadei penning an essay that alarms the globe about the need to pace frontier AI due to the risks.

Yeah, and so AI safety was a key theme of the interview and continued a common theme from both OpenAI and Anthropic of proactively seeking government intervention into the sector.