Jeff Berlin

The first gig I did with him was a thing at MI, because I used to teach there.

And Jeff Berlin and I used to do some classes together.

Yeah, I loved Jeff.

And Jeff called me and said, hey, Joel, Alan's coming tomorrow for a clinic, and he wants to just play, like, you know, free stuff.

I mean, you know, everybody used to come out to see Alan, man.

So Schooley was the bass player on that.

So I, you know, originally played with Jeff Berlin and then Schooley.

And then we started the trio with Carpenter.