Jed Hoyer

And the thing is, they're able to get these guys because...

All the fucking stupid Jed Hoyer and Carter Hawkins of the fucking world are out there selling out for like, oh, well, if we have a team to ask the most war.

Yeah, those are individual stats and shit

for a team.

You should be better than this.

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just desserts because i what i said about with cubs fans is that they are delusional like they have they don't think about it in baseball terms you know they think about it like jed hoyer thinks about it in war terms oh look at our players like a 10 war we must be great of course they do they have jed hoyer and boog jed's giving them stats Yeah, they might as well work for the Bureau of Labor Statistics being like, oh, we had 186,000 jobs created.

It's like, yeah, jobs cleaning up the blood in the streets.

It's Craig Council comments.

There's Jed Hoyer.

There's Tom Ricketts comments.

We're going to talk about the upper brass management after the break.

Just relax, guys, okay? I've backed Jed before.

I think Jed can only do what he can do, right? I don't know what the Cubs could do to upgrade from him.

Because, again, necessarily just firing him and putting someone else in his place doesn't do anything necessarily, right? They could fire Jed Hoyer, sure.

But they could also just put Carter Hawkins in his place.

He's going to be a free agent at the end of the year.

But since Jed Hoyer signed him, he's been one of the 10, 12 best hitters in the National League.

He's been a middle-of-the-order type of bat, and he delivers in big spots.

The top three in the order have been pretty ferocious with PCA, Suzuki, and Bregman.

The whole damn point.

And when you can't say that the guy who is the white whale that Jed Hoyer and Theo Epstein were obsessed with for so many years, I'm sorry to always think of the phrase, Kenny gets his man.

But when you're obsessed with somebody for a long time, they're going to be different than who they were the year before.

And unfortunately, we've seen Kevin Gossman not be consistent in his start so far for this Cubs team.

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Brian Hoyer, the former Bears quarterback.

Jed Hoyer has the Brian Hoyer jersey.

Yes.

The whole damn point.

And when you can't say that the guy who is the white whale that Jed Hoyer and Theo Epstein were obsessed with for so many years, I'm sorry to always think of the phrase, Kenny gets his man.

But when you're obsessed with somebody for a long time, they're going to be different than who they were the year before.

And unfortunately, we've seen Kevin Gossman not be consistent in his start so far for this Cubs team.

And, but like, it's a whole organizational wide thing where it's like, you can't just be like, well, tell me how to be screwed over up.

Jed Hoyer screwed up or Tyler Zombrow, the director of pitching or vice president of pitching, whatever his title is screwed up.

Like I think it's a whole organizational wide thing where you aren't at the base level acquiring good young pitching that you can develop into, into strong pitching.

But you're also not supplementing that with the outside additions, right? Like no team is ever going to build up their own, their entire pitching staff with, purely drafted international signing guys like you have to augment that from the outside and if you're not scouting and acquiring the right players like you kind of run into what you have and it's it's kind of like what they were doing leading up to 2016 except they're not splashing the cash on a john lester or a big like big free agent starting pitcher so then therefore it's like well you're kind of getting what you what you put in